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Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:09 am

I tried doing something like this on Ac.co.uk but it didn't really catch on, so I figured I'd try on here;

I have noticed an abundance of debates and battle-esque threads lately. I have decided to create this thread so that the forum does not get cluttered with these battle threads and character vs character fights.

Ok now that the brief intro is over I shall explain the rules. The battles in this thread are strictly between comic book characters for now, if it gets more popular then I may start some more abstract battles. If you have a battle you would like to see, contact me first and I will move it onto the waiting list.

These debates will be debated until I feel we need to move on and the participants are changed. Some fights may be re-visited over time, but only when I feel it is needed.

I shall keep track of the debates in the OP and shall also create a "Wall of Fame" for truly great debaters (S_A_M I may as well reserve you a place).

Previous Debates
1. Black Panther vs Iron Fist. Winner: Iron Fist
2.Nightwing vs Red Hood (Jason Todd). Winner: Nightwing
3. Aquaman vs Namor. Winner: Aquaman
4. *Current* Kingpin vs Black Mask. Winner: ?

Wall of Fame

Now that everything has been explained I am going to start the first debate; a fight between one two of the greatest hand to hand combatants in their Universe; The King of Wakanda, Black Panther vs Danny Rand aka Iron Fist.

You may begin the debate.


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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Archie on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:14 am

Prep: Black Panther
Reason: BP has been shown to be able to out-prep Tony Stark, along with his equipment and intelligence he'll be able of finding a way to counter Danny's fighting style.

Random Encounter: Iron Fist
Reason: Iron Fist is simply the better fighter, being a master of near all earthly martial arts, a couple off world ones and his own ones, along with the power of the Iron Fist. It would only take one well placed Iron Fist punch to destroy BP.
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:22 am

Archie wrote:Prep: Black Panther
Reason: BP has been shown to be able to out-prep Tony Stark, along with his equipment and intelligence he'll be able of finding a way to counter Danny's fighting style.

Random Encounter: Iron Fist
Reason: Iron Fist is simply the better fighter, being a master of near all earthly martial arts, a couple off world ones and his own ones, along with the power of the Iron Fist. It would only take one well placed Iron Fist punch to destroy BP.
I'm in agreement with all of these points except the last one about him getting one shoted. I think the vibranium armor may grant him a little longer than expected, but I think Danny could probably break his defenses after a while, given some of the stuff Iron Fist has been shown to be able to preform when he fully focuses his Chi.
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Archie on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:26 am

Does Black Panther wear Vibranium armour all the time though? Would it be safe to assume that he had it in a random encounter? Even if so IF would be able to find a way around it I would say. He has destroyed the Helicarrier in one punch before (pretty impressive eh? haha)
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:45 am

Archie wrote:Does Black Panther wear Vibranium armour all the time though? Would it be safe to assume that he had it in a random encounter? Even if so IF would be able to find a way around it I would say. He has destroyed the Helicarrier in one punch before (pretty impressive eh? haha)
I'm not too sure about the armor, I think Black Panther uses it quite often, but I'm not sure if he'd have it with him on a random encounter. Regardless of if he has the armor or not, he's still going to lose, the armor just buys him a couple of minutes.

Also the Helicarrier thing is quite impressive, but is it more impressive than this?





(Sorry, just had to get a little love flowing for my homeboy Thor).
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:23 am

Ok, since were both in agreement that Iron Fit would beat T'Challa I think it's time to move on. This next fight is a battle between two ex apprentices of the Dark Knight himself, Nightwing vs Jason Todd, the Red Hood.
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by The Joker on Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:10 pm

Nightwing, more experience, already beat him I think. I don't really have much to elaborate on but I'm pretty sure he can both physically beat him and exploit Todd's impulse's/anger issues etc and so on, also he's probably a better tactician, and a better detective. Besides that he's just been around far longer.
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Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:25 am

The Joker wrote:Nightwing, more experience, already beat him I think. I don't really have much to elaborate on but I'm pretty sure he can both physically beat him and exploit Todd's impulse's/anger issues etc and so on, also he's probably a better tactician, and a better detective. Besides that he's just been around far longer.

Ya, I agree. Dick was the better Robin, is more experienced in combat, Jason's mental superior and has superior technology on hand. Also as you've already said, Dick can use Jason's emotional instability to his advantage, after all if Jason gets angrier then his attacks will be less coordinated.

Plus I'm pretty sure Bruce has said that Dick was Jason's superior in the past anyway.
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Post by The Kryptonian Crusader on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:51 am

Nightwing, in every way, shape, and form. The way Jason fights is propelled by his anger, giving him an advantage against more inexperienced fighters, but Dick actually took the time and paid attention to Bruce's teachings, giving him the edge in almost everything else. Although I do think that Jason has slightly superior technology, Dick would still beat him in hand to hand combat, using his emotional and mental stability against him. Jason is a great fighter, but his time with Ra's AND the All-Caste still doesn't match up to Dick's more advanced and refined training with Batman.

This battle actually does happen in BFTC, btw.
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:41 am

Ok, so now that Nightwing has been determined the winner I thought we should move onto a match that has long been discussed. Aquaman vs Namor the Submariner.

The fight takes place underwater with standard versions of the characters.

Ok, so on this one I'm siding with Aquaman, regardless of his lackluster reputation. I could see Aquaman's capability to contact and control marine animals telepathically working on Namor to a certain extent, but due to the fact that Namor is also half human, he many be able to resist the attack slightly.

I don't think it's enough for K.O within the first couple of seconds, so Aquaman messes with Namor's mind, disorientating him and blurring his vision ect and while the Submariner is dazed, Aquaman advances upon Namor and takes him down while he is trying to get his head straight.

But that's just me, what do you guys think?
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:42 am

Just ignore this,


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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by The Joker on Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:50 am

I'm going to have to say Aquaman cause I recall him winning I think by fighting him outside water then crushing him with a whale in that crossover that happened where they fought. That's all I have to say.
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:08 am

Ya, I remember reading that somewhere in a cross over but I can't remember which one.

Anyway I think telepathic control of Namor could work but if not than Aquaman has superior strength to the Submariner and he could summon the creatures of the deep to attack Namor. I do however think Namor out does Aquaman in speed and general fighting skill, but Aquaman is possibly more durable.

All in all I personally give Aquaman the win.
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by The Joker on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:12 pm

What about Kingpin vs Black Mask?
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Re: The Arena Thread

Post by Thorforpresident on Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:52 pm

The Joker wrote:What about Kingpin vs Black Mask?

I'll add it to the list.

Anyway, I'm going to give it to Kingpin, he's defiantly the stronger out of the two and he has shown enought durability to withstand anything Sionis can dish out. Kingpin regularly fights people like Spider-Man and Daredevil (Spidey is stronger than Bruce and I believe Matt may be faster than Batsy, albeit slightly) where as I've saw Black Mask get beaten by the Catwoman and Robin, whom I also believe Spidey or Daredevil could beat.

Black Mask has the speed advantage and that's about it. Kingpin is stronger, more durable, has more resources than Sionis, has better feats and possibly has the mental edge over Roman intelligence wise.
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